The Controversy Over Bethesda’s ‘Game Engine’ Is Misguided

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This morning, news headlines and YouTube videos across the internet declared that Bethesda will not change engines for the upcoming games Starfield and The Elder Scrolls VI, setting off a wave of outrage that’s become oh-so-common in the world of video games. This story, however, is misleading, based mostly on…

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A number of headlines and YouTube videos this week have declared that Bethesda won't change its game engine for Sta…
Some much appreciated insight there on game engines. My main point really is that with each iteration of Creation E…
Good piece on what an engine REALLY is. Learned a lot from this and will be covering it tomorrow.
Technically, the engine powering the Tomb Raider reboot is the engine Crystal used for all of it's games as far bac…
Sucker Punch has been using "the same" engine going back all the way to Infamous (2009) at least. It's "the same"…
I think part of the problem is companies celebrating their engines like "only possible with Frostbite 10.0!" "using…
You must be clueless. People said it would stupid not to believe they’d use an all new engine for Fallout 4. We kno…
Clickbaiting youtubers spreading their misinformation for views is such a travesty. Seems like people just throw co…
When I routinely say "people don't know how games are made", this is a pretty good example. I remember not too lon…
Oh fuck off Jason, the engine has been used since Morrowind, Bethesda is long overdue for a new engine, and they ha…
Always good to spread more nuanced truth.
This is a rare Good Take. Bethesda isn't the company I've have gone to bat for over it mind you and I feel like th…
Why am I not surprised that the source of this is another blisteringly bad take on Forbes?
This is a great read, especially if you’re a gamer who feels they know more about game development than actual game…
Good stuff on what exactly a #gameengine is. It is a framework for making very different games "Both the retro-s…
Few things have frustrated me more than people being angry at Bethesda because of "their engine". Most people don't…
Ok so maybe I’m wrong
Tak, ale czy ktoś w końcu odniesie się do tego, że fizyka i prędkość gracza na tym silniku są uzależnione od ilości…
yet some people will still argue against this,. great article tho
when the foundation of your home is essentially garbage, no matter how many shiny toilets and gadgets you put in th…
Bethesda’s engine needs to be put In prison and never released again
BGS: Here’s 7 buggy, horribly optimized games in a row with different art styles Journalists: Gotta love all this a…
This is a good look at what game engines involve. But at the same time if a game still looks, plays, feels, and has…
This reminds me of web design. When I design web sites, I may reuse a lot of old code to save time, but each new si…
This article needs more clicks, as it does a fantastic job explaining something that people don't really understand…
Aunque nos conozcamos los avances de Bethesda diferentes versiones de mismo motor puede significar mantener práctic…
This is dumb. Who cares about the game engines. Just play the game.
@YongYea I think you should read this when you have the time. :)
RIGHT 👏🏼 ON 👏🏼 POINT
This is good context about game development and what a "game engine" is.
Bethesda doesn't have a great track record when it comes to switching game engines considering they've used the sam…
Hey everybody, guess what happens next! It rhymes with "We gamers demand you make a new engine from scratch for the…
Jason Schreirer é um cara que eu respeito demais. Além de fazer matérias muito boas, o cara tem cabeça pra constant…
It comes as no surprise to me that the hardcore fans still have no idea what "game engine" means. I get that making…
The condescension is real.
I always forget just how much knowledge about game dev seems obvious to developers, but requires explanation for mo…
People forget that engines are a culmination of code over time, with pieces that can be upgraded or replaced time a…
This is a good read for anyone interested in, or even just curious about, game dev :)
Totalmente de acuerdo con este post. Please leer si te importa Fallout o bethesda en general
La controversia gilipollas de turno. De verdad GAMERS, cada vez más pesados.
@tehMorag
some people in the comments hit it on the head - yes, it's inaccurate to say OH THE ENGINE SUCKS UGH whenever you d…
Even as someone who this is obvious too it's still a great read. I had these same issues with Quake.
Yea I totally knew what a game engine was 😅
Honestly, I will even hear designers at my uni spew this type of shit now and then. It's shocking to me how high th…
The controversy over Bethesda's "game engine" is misguided.
Here comes the corporate defense squad over at Kotaku
This article is completely correct, and its explanation is completely correct, but I feel like it doesn't offer any…
Bethesda nos ha pagado muchichísimo dinero para decir que utilizar el mismo engine que el Morrorwind está bien porq…
Literally any “controversy” in gaming is misguided AT BEST.
Wait until the gamers find out that Theseus is still sailing the same ship
Called it! Here comes games shill media outlets like Kotaku to defend and justify poorly made games. They will do a…
I'm still amazed that FUCKING KOTAKU has to come out and tell you what is Fake News. That said, FUCKING KOTAKU has…
A mostly fantastic article....I never thought I would say that about Kotaku.... but mostly Fantastic. Thank you…
@GundamIsHere *Insert ItsAGundam (Double😂) Ooooooh~ noises*
Kotaku back at it again with their dumb shit, proving for the 100th time they're the worst news outlet for games ev…
This article has given me a new appreciation for 343 building a new engine for Infinite.
@BLACKB0ND @GundamIsHere @OhNoItsAlexx Corporate slave Jason Schreier is back it, defending shit developer decision…
To speak to this article by @jasonschreier, I think what people actually get annoyed with on these games isn't the…
This. If the tools worked well, then no one would care that it's the same general framework that's been used for ov…
Bethesda’s design/art engine tools are the key to their creation of robust, populated open-world games. There’s alw…
best take <3
I find that people kick around the word “optimization” a lot in a similar fashion and it’s exhausting to hear the a…
La polémica de mierda que se ha liado con lo de The Elder Scrolls VI / Starfield y lo de que "usará el mismo engine…
This is a great article. As an engine programmer I spend all day modifying an engine right alongside the developmen…
Yeah, "engine" is one of those words that fans, myself included before I started working in games, wildly misunders…
I've been trying to think of a good analogy to explain why game engines are widely misunderstood (by me, still, but…
it's neat how everybody thinks they know everything about game development, but actually nobody knows anything abou…
@SuperToxin_ @JimSterling May I direct your attention to this article my good sir. . Blamin…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
It’s really funny sometimes that we devs tend to think sth is so obvious it requires no explanation while our custo…
@Magical_Worker @Ja77Punk @YongYea
Good article on what exactly constitutes a “game engine”: @jasonschreier’s hitting it out…
A good read. There's a lot of misconceptions about "game engines" out there and more articles like this can't hurt.…
Это страшно очевидные вещи и даже немного стыдно, что их озвучивает Шраер. Мало кто знает, к примеру, что в Дустан…
@schimahr @BristolianGamer This is true. @jasonschreier 's Kotaku article is very informative in this matter.
The Controversy Over Bethesdas Game Engine Is Misguided
.@jasonschreier Still doesn’t change the fact that Bethesda’s tech is outdated and results in technical messes of g…
@hypnicneon @Sergent_Cule Le sujet a été abordé par ici :)
@PabCasado @El_Sr_Gris Mirad, lo que comenté del motor, pero mejor explicado
Imagine being pissed about one of the best game engines of all time. 😒 The Controversy Over Bethesda&#39;s &#39;Ga…
"Gamers" are just pure dumb
I was worried about bethesda's engine and saw this article that changed my perspective about their engine
@Tamriel1776 Im sure everything will be ok Jessica : D. These articles are nontech clickbait; Same "game engine" do…
@MoistCr1TiKaL
Какая-то заказуха от Беседки на Kotaku. Крестьяне не понимают термин игровой движок, путают с набором технологий, в…
@hotlivsex
This is an enlightening article. I will have to rethink my terminology, but my opinion still holds true. Bethesda n…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku
I love Bethesda games and so glad they improve the old instead of reinventing the wheel. Their games are massive an…
@WickedGood @kensanityHS @mattatarms Relevant coincidence: Same engine = re-skin is a common and easy mistake to ma…
Good article and response thread!
I know this guy is a good writer, but this just seems like he's arguing semantics? So "engine' isn't a good word to…
Glossed over author, got a third of the way thru, and quickly realized w/o looking that is was by ⁦@jasonschreier⁩…
The problem with this defense is that it ignores @Bethesda's history of slow rolling with iterations and updates.…
@GundamIsHere -Schrier seems to have flipped. Now supporting Bethesda and shitting down the…
@painface87 @JimSterling @bethesda
Goed verhaal over ‘Engines’. Neemt niet weg dat Bethesda gammele bende maakt. The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Ga…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku
For everyone out there who thinks they know what an engine is. #Fallout76
@CoastalMichelle apparently you are according to @Kotaku misguided. Personally, I think that Kotaku is just in bed…
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The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
This piece by @jasonschreier is what I was implying with my previous tweet about game engin…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
Love this man's writing. Hits on a lot of points here that people forget about. Thanks @jasonschreier via @kotaku
Good read but not sure about you calling @YongYea out
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
Think before you scream
This is a good write up on the actual structure of game engines and development and how they can be misconstrued. T…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
A primer on a game engine actually is
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku
Thanks @jasonschreier for this great write up on our conversation about the subject! The Controversy Over Bethesda…
Should say Jason Schreier's piece at Kotaku is a good layman outline of what a game engine is though:
I'm glad someone jumped in to clear this up. And I'm even more glad it was Jason. Game engines are built on iterati…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
@JimSterling Thoughts Jim? ”The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided” via @kotaku @jasonschreier
To ja tu to zostawię przez @kotaku
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
This is a take more outraged gamers who react to cherry picked lines about have development need to read.
@ItsAGundamPost The Controversy Over Bethesda&#39;s &#39;Game Engine&#39; Is Misguided<em></em> via @kotaku
Read this Kotaku: The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided. via @GoogleNews
The Controversy Over Bethesda’s ‘Game Engine’ Is Misguided [@Kotaku]
Engines are "a framework for making games. These are not immutable creations, [...] a game’s programmers will alter…
Man, we had this conversation when Unity was taking heat for some odd reason. I'd say more of the distrust is how B…
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided
Gamers are morons, part 786
Господи, да ваша игра просто говно, какая разница что как называть
Great article. I do think that there are those that are knowledgeable about the topic to a certain extent and are u…
The Controversy Over #Bethesda 's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided by Jason Schreier @Kotaku @jasonschreier
The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided via @kotaku worth a read.
this is why @kotaku is becoming a joke now via @kotaku
Glad Kotaku wrote this article: hearing people say: oof, Fallout's engine makes the game lo…
While good points are made, the game is still an asset flip of F4 and is outdated for what was released and if this…
A good explanation on what game engines are. Two games using the same game engine...it can be misleading. TESVI mig…
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The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided ༄ Fallout 4 may use the same e…
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The Controversy Over Bethesda's 'Game Engine' Is Misguided #bethesdagamestudios #kotakucore #fallout76 #bethesda
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The Controversy Over Bethesda&#39;s &#39;Game Engine&#39; Is Misguided<em></em> via @kotaku
У нас с Шрайером разные взгляды на проблему. В Call of Duty, например, движок обновляется каждый год и изменения от…

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